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Sunday, March 30, 2008

How to fix Nirma?

Today I am going to try and analyze what's wrong with the Institute of Technology at Nirma University. I have been complaining about my college for the past 3.75 years without suggesting any steps on how things can be made better. Here are my suggestions on how to fix the college:

1. Stop spending so much money on growing grass in the college and put some to poach good teachers to the institute. The CE/IT dept. has a large number of teachers with no experience. A good prof. is worth tons of infrastructure. I am ready to sit under a tree to study if the prof. is worth it.

2. Once you start getting good profs., make fluent English a compulsory requirement for teachers. Almost half of the staff cannot convey anything when speaking in English. A 15 year old kid would pronounce and spell better than they would. Our textbooks, online references, assignments, answer papers are all in English. How can you let these people, who can hardly understand the language, teach subjects?

But no one in the right mind would come to a college like this leaving DA-IICT, SVNIT, MSU or even an IIT. So things need to be changed with the environment.

3. Do away with compulsory attendance. I know this would meet with a lot of resistance and is very difficult to digest, but would make a hell lot of a difference with the environment. Close to 7 minutes of a lecture is wasted taking attendance. 7(minutes)*4(lectures)*5(days)*16(weeks)=37 hours every semester wasted for attendance.

4. If the above can't be done, make attendance mandatory only for labs. Bring down the attendance requirement for lectures down from 80% to 75%.

5. Do away with the silly attendance reviews 3 times a semester. It serves no purpose and is a waste of everyone's time.

6. Take practical exams in the last lab. of each course. Currently a practical exam is worth only 5 marks (out of 100) but wastes 1 week of semester. Give that week off as a reading vacation, or shift theory exams to that week.

7. Give a day off after every theory exam. With the time saved by shifting the vivas, this can be achieved easily. This would give much more time to understand each subject thoroughly before the exams. If the IITs can do this, so can Nirma.

8. Do away with the assignments. This is another pointless exercise and a lot of forests have been sacrificed to serve this nonsensical task. If you can't do this, then reduce the number of assignments to 4 (one per month). Instead of picking questions directly from the text, make the faculty browse the net and find really challenging tasks. Make a set of 10 questions and give 1 question to a group of 5 students for every assignment.

9. Make the use of projectors in theory classes (this for CE/IT). There is no point in having theory classes in subjects like IWD, C, C++, etc. They are not theoretical subjects and shouldn't be converted to one.

10. Do away with the pointless subjects in the first year. My guess is that this system was first introduced in places where you decide your majors after the first year. It is not so in our system so why continue a pointless tradition. I have gained absolutely nothing with the knowledge of Engineering Drawing, or Chemistry, or Mechanics, or the silly Workshops. Keep 2/3 general and 4 core subjects per semester in the first year and start introducing electives from the 2nd year itself.

11. Do away with the Special Learning Programmes and Career Orientation classes. They are a waste of time and do not look attractive even on paper. In the same vein, do away with the Orientation programme for first years and hand it over to seniors instead.

12. Streamline the semester durations. We've started all odd semesters in different months. Start the odd semester from 1 August and finish in November end. Start the even semester from 2 January and finish in last week of April. Give May, June, July completely off in order to introduce point no. 13

13. Introduce voluntary industrial training after 2nd year and compulsory training after 3rd year. No company would be willing to take students for only 2 months in the summer. Hence a nice 12 week vacation is necessary. No need to assign credits for this. If our students start performing well in this training, the reputation of the college will automatically go up and companies will start coming for placements.

14. Now for non-curricular stuff. Dissolve all department clubs (ECO/MESA/CHESA/ACES...). If you want to keep them, don't allow them to conduct annual tech-fests. Most of the events are repeated and too much money and time is wasted. Let them conduct only talks/workshops/seminars related to their field. Also, either do away with the faculty co-ordinators or give more powers to them. Right now they only add to the red tape as all permissions need to be signed by the Director. If the faculty co-ord signs it, then whats the need for Director to sign it?

15. Once you've done away with the Prevoyances and Chemozales, introduce a techincal festival on the lines of Techfest (IITB) or Synapse (DA-IICT). 4-5 events related to each field of engineering. Some mega events. Allow anyone to sponsor the event. Keep one faculty in-charge of this event so that the entire organizing committee can report/refer to him/her for guidance. Call him the Dean of Student Affairs or something. He would have all powers and accept responsibility for anything related to the event.

16. Remove the ban on mobile phones. This is a place of education, not a jail. The population of students coming from far-away places is increasing everyday, and mobile phones have become a necessity. Of course, this does not mean that anyone can use mobile phones in class. Fine/punish the student who does so. If a student is talking in the canteen, what's the harm? If any student is caught taking pictures then do whatever you want. Finding a good mobile phone without a camera is not possible in today's word.

17. Improve the college website. This is the first thing a person/company would look at. Make all faculty put course material, assignments, solutions, tests, etc. on the intranet. Publish results on the net.

18. Introduce more transparency to the marks system. Make the exam department put a detailed report of all students on the intranet. How much did a student score in each assignment, test, MSE, SEE, Viva? What lead to him/her getting a particular grade?

19. Access to internet must be given in the labs. The internet contains a lot of useful information and is a 100 times better than our library. You can block all sites that you want to. In fact, you can get students to suggest ways to block sites. It isn't hard to block domains. Don't block 99% of the good stuff to keep out 1% of the bad stuff.

20. Make hostels for under-graduates in the campus. No college is complete without hostel. Besides providing a good facility to students, this will make students bond with each other and create a good atmosphere.

I hope someone from the college would read this and try to do something.

Akash

25 comments:

Parth said...

excellent! couldnt agree with you more....

Ankit said...

Very well presented..I liked it as you were true ...and not like others who just praise Nirma too much and also hype about it...we need such people who write genuine stuff...keep it up !

Unknown said...

there would be no point if i would not say the truth in my own blog. but one thing to note is that while this post was meant to be strongly critical of systems being currently followed in the college, it is still by far the best state level engineering college in gujarat. the students are getting better each year. we have people with calls from iims, xlri, mdi, fms, etc. people who've got accepts from carnegie mellon, columbia, ucla, stanford, gatech, uiuc. what i'm trying to say is that a little bit of tweaking in the system here and there and we would start competing with the iits instead of the ddits

Parth said...

akash, i think we are already competing with the IITs.. a little improvement in the system and the faculty and we should be right there.. and as you rightly pointed out ppl from nirma are getting admissions into the best of the institutions worldwide... though in terms of placements we are still lagging behind.. there is no dearth in terms of talent in nirma.. we are equally talented as the iitians.. in some cases much more talented.. hadnt been the case then we wont have won National Robocon 4 out of 7 times beating IITs comprehensively! :)

saw-mill said...

4 years in a single university coupled with not more than 8 months of touring, you are asking for too much, mister.
We had a discussion about sub-standard faculty members and we ended up asking ourselves - Who wants to become a faculty member 10 years down the line ? Our Advisor answered, If the industry needs more research, we shall have funds to spend; afterall no one can is ready to leave a booming professional career into handling arrogant kids at school.

Unknown said...

@parth

we win robocon so many times because robocon is one of the few events which is completely supported by the institute. it has students from all branches working together, a good (and mostly non-interfering, afaik) faculty advisor, support from seniors, and monetary help from the university. unlike the IITs, this is the only thing which we can be proud of apart from placements. what i would like to ask is - would this support continue if the team lost some 3-4 years in a row?

apart from that i refuse to believe that we are competing with the IITs. nit surat, maybe, but not IITs.

Shweta said...
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Shweta said...

Excellent review.

N regarding your comment saying that "the students are getting better each year. we have people with calls from iims, xlri, mdi, fms, etc. people who've got accepts from carnegie mellon, columbia, ucla, stanford, gatech, uiuc. ", i think that its precisely the students who are getting better, the universtiy is doing nothing substantial for the admits to come in. Apart from the reputation part that is. a bit of recognition.

Having said this, Nirma is surely a good place to be in, if we are to stay in Gujarat and study engineering.

Unknown said...

Hello akash Reading this blog I am confused. I am a 12 th pass student and 12th July is my counselling date. Now After reading ur article i am confused whether to prefer msu or nirma first?please reply as soon as possible

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Unknown said...

Wow! I'd forgotten how bad it used to be. :D

Udit Sood said...

hahah you sure have some grudges. Good to know there are suggestions as well. Maybe you could email this to some prof or dean who'd listen.

Urvish Gohil said...

Hi All,
I did my B.Tech from Nirma Only...
Completely Agree with you...

Only one thing to say...
Still NIRMA is best college to get admission in Gujarat... (and DA-IICT also)

Anonymous said...

excellent analysis....the new director Mr. Kotecha is more cooperative. i dont think any1 from nirma's management is going to visit dis blog nd make any chnge in nirma...definitely, students can suggest rather request them to do it...DHRUVIL

Punit said...

Gr8 compilation indeed..

This post reflects the mind of every nirmite. It contains all ingredients to make the nirma the best in reality.

Ankit said...

Hey Akash that was a good assessment of what all our college lacks and sugesstion to improve them are really very practical. I believe our college director visits this blog in order to get enlightened...

Vaibhav said...

Although Akash's points are all parallel to what we discuss every time in and out of the college.

We know what should happen but we are not able to forward suggestions to the authority.
I would specially appreciate the point no.13 and 20 which are the requirements for a national level Engineering college. Even state level college have the provision of industrial training.

The fact is that students do not have a good exposure of industrial training and its facts. Or, otherwise those who know about does not share these information with their fellows. I suggest those who read this comment to ponder on this fact.

I would like to add some more points which are also important for the students as well as the institute.

1. There must be a facilitation for extra curricular activities.
People who have interest in music have to arrange for the instruments on their own. Also a separate hall must be there for such activities. we have to take on a lot of paper work before we could reach any AUDI for any type of practice.

2.Sports facility is at worse here in our college. Only 2 pair of stumps are there and the ground timings are fixed for everyone. Imagine 5000 students using only two grounds in which most of the time construction or repairing work is going on always. There was a Badminton court which has been destroyed for another construction.

3. Money spent on extravagant gardening must be invested in providing other facilities which Akash suggested.

I am forwarding the copy of the blog in my name to our director after editing it in a respectful manner. I hope he would reply this letter. I will share the reply(if done) with all of you all!

I assure anyone of your names will not reach him except mine.

Best wishes
Vaibhav Upadhyay

Amit Rathod said...

Sorry.. but I don't agree with any of the points..and not good the make it public..

divyesh2 said...

Hey this college is Not giving Space to grow up and want to compete with IIT, how come this possible? I think management need more counseling from foreign university. Egoistic people are driving this college and they never been in experienced or think how the world education system changing for next Generation. If student get admission in this college then student feel proud, but after completion of study none of them appreciate college system. Students think that they will get more than other college from this top college but, the thing is hell here. Because the college do not encourage innovative things to do. Even the topper of This college won't get time to think some thing different.

Even if some student failed in semester they have to waste a year, my question is why he have to waste the year? if college want's to fail some one then that student need more guidance mentally. Rather than doing this college send them for more hard work and more assignment work. What the hell is this? If they treat that student well and guide him properly then this student can get good score. And if college waste student life in failing them in exam and wasting 1year, its like wasting India's next generation life that may be very powerful in future. I think this college need psychological treatment too. Because as per Newton Law's "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction". So if they respect to student life student will respect them automatically.

Well friend in our country, each college need counseling for how to treat student and Government should allow only that college who passed first how to behave with student. In this revolution , i m with you my friends.

Rushabh Acharya said...

very true...

arpit said...

Very true indeed. All the points that you put out are completely valid and must be implemented if at all they want Nirma to grow.

Came across your blog for the first time. Enjoyed reading them. Keep blogging.

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Unknown said...

hey nice thoughts
I and my other friends bored with these all stuff like assignments and viva.
we all want to bunk some classes but review is the hell for us.
It's seem to be jail sometimes.
But why should faculties have mobiles with them if it is not allowed? I don't like these.
three or four times I've found some faculties talking while lecture.

Nirav Patel said...

i think you are right in some sense but its all about time..it will change and evolve over time..Hopes are always high..

Manaal said...

I am a first year student of nirma in btech ic....I am fed up with dis cllg in my first month only